BY JOE CREE

HOT ROD BOBBERS TO HOT ROD BAGGERS, WE DO IT ALL.

EST. 1991

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COMPARE CALIFORNIA CUSTOMS TO SOME OF OUR COMPETITORS

UPDATED FOR 2008

APC IS OUR LATEST BRAND TO ADD TO THIS. WE ESPECIALLY LIKE THEM BECAUSE ALL OF THEIR SALES LITERATURE SAYS HOW AFFORDABLE THEIR BIKES ARE. TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEY OFFER FOR MORE MONEY THAN MOST WE'VE FOUND.

ITEM CALIFORNIA CUSTOMS APC*
BUILT BIKE MODELS 26 10
UNASSEMBLED KIT MODELS 24 0
FRAME STYLES 3- RIGID, SOFTAIL OR RUBBER MOUNT 2- RIGID AND SOFTAIL WE THINK
BASE MOTOR¹ S&S  V 96, V 107, V 113, V 124, T124V OR SH 93H  S&S V96
BASE TRANSMISSION PROWLER 6 SPEED 6 SPEED
MANUFACTURER'S LICENSE? YES YES
BASE BRAKES PERFORMANCE MACHINE HAWG HALTERS
BUILT TO YOUR SPECS? YES NO
BASE SUSPENSION(SOFTAILS) LEGEND AIR RIDE SHOCKS WE THINK
WARRANTY? YES WE THINK SO
WHEEL OPTIONS OVER 70 9
REAR TIRE OPTIONS 200, 250 OR 300 240 OR 300
POLISHED DRIVETRAIN STANDARD? YES DON'T KNOW
SHEETMETAL OPTIONS UNLIMITED NONE WE CAN SEE
BUILD TIME 10-12 WEEKS PLENTY IN STOCK IF YOU DON'T MIND YOURS LOOKING LIKE A MILLION OTHERS
BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1991 1998
BASE PRICE RANGE $19,250- $36,000 $26,545- $43,995

*SOURCE: N.A.D.A. GUIDE AND APC WEB SITE. THEIR WEB SITE LEAVES A LOT TO BE DESIRED THOUGH.

MORE TO COMPARE

ITEM CALIFORNIA CUSTOMS BBC* PHANTOM CHOPPERS**
BUILT BIKE MODELS 26 21 7
UNASSEMBLED KIT MODELS 24 21 2
FRAME STYLES 3- RIGID, SOFTAIL OR RUBBER MOUNT 2- RIGID OR SOFTAIL 2- RIGID OR SOFTAIL
BASE MOTOR¹ S&S  V96, V107, V113, V124, T124V OR SH93H  S&S 100 ULTIMA 100
BASE TRANSMISSION PROWLER 6 SPEED 6 SPEED TRICKSHIFT 6 SPEED
MANUFACTURER'S LICENSE? YES YES NOT ACCORDING TO THE MIC 2006 LISTING
BUILT TO YOUR SPECS? YES NO NO
BASE SUSPENSION(SOFTAILS) LEGEND AIR RIDE SHOCKS SHOCKS
WARRANTY? YES UNKNOWN UNKNOWN
WHEEL OPTIONS OVER 70 9 NONE WE KNOW OF
REAR TIRE OPTIONS 200, 250 OR 300 250, 280 OR 300 200, 250 OR 300
POLISHED DRIVETRAIN STANDARD? YES NOT ON ALL MODELS YES
SHEETMETAL OPTIONS UNLIMITED UNKNOWN UNKNOWN
BUILD TIME 10-12 WEEKS 4-5 MONTHS UNKNOWN
BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1991 1997 1999
BASE PRICE RANGE $19,250- $36,000 $24,00- $37,400 $23,995- $37,000

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT. WE STACK UP PRETTY WELL AGAINST THE COMPETITION, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONGER THAN EITHER OF THE OTHERS WE MENTIONED HERE. WHEN YOU'RE READY TO STEP UP TO A REAL CUSTOM BIKE LET US KNOW AND WE'LL HAND CRAFT ONE BAD ASS HOT ROD BIKE FOR YOU.

FOR MORE INFO ON PHANTOM CHOPPERS CLICK HERE.

*SOURCE- BIG BEAR CHOPPERS WEB SITE AND N.A.D.A. GUIDE, AT LEAST THEY ARE A REAL SHOP.

** SOURCE- PHANTOM CHOPPERS WEB SITE, THEY'RE REALLY ONLY A CYBER SHOP ANYWAY. NOT LISTED IN N.A.D.A. GUIDE.

NOW LET'S COMPARE CALIFORNIA CUSTOMS TO SOME OF THE BIG DOGS, YES, PUN UNTENDED.
ITEM CALIFORNIA CUSTOMS BIG DOG* TITAN** AIH± NOW FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY
BUILT BIKE MODELS 26 7 12 9
UNASSEMBLED KIT MODELS 24 0 0 0
FRAME STYLES 3- RIGID, SOFTAIL OR RUBBER MOUNT 2- RIGID OR SOFTAIL 3- RIGID, SOFTAIL OR RUBBER MOUNT 3- RIGID, SOFTAIL OR RUBBER MOUNT
BASE MOTOR¹ S&S V96, V107, V113, V124, T124V OR SH93H  117" S&S EVO S&S EVO 96",112" OR 93" SHOVEL 111" S&S WITH OTHERS AS OPTIONS
BASE TRANSMISSION  6 SPEED 6 SPEED 6 SPEED 6 SPEED
MANUFACTURER'S LICENSE? YES YES YES YES
BUILT TO YOUR SPECS? YES NO NO NO
BASE SUSPENSION(SOFTAILS) LEGEND AIR RIDE SHOCKS SHOCKS SHOCKS
WARRANTY? YES YES I THINK SO YES
WHEEL OPTIONS OVER 70 0 0 10
REAR TIRE OPTIONS 200, 250 OR 300 250 OR 300 200, 250 OR 260 240, 280 OR 300
POLISHED DRIVETRAIN STANDARD? YES YES NO NOT ON ALL MODELS
SHEETMETAL OPTIONS UNLIMITED NONE NONE NONE
BUILD TIME 10-12 WEEKS NONE, YOU CAN BUY ONE ANYWHERE NONE, BUY A COOKIE CUTTER TITAN AT THE LOCAL DEALER VISIT YOUR LOCAL STEALER
BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1991 1996 1995, NOT INCLUDING THE TIME THEY WENT BANKRUPT AND CLOSED THEIR DOORS. 1997
BASE PRICE RANGE $19,250- $36,000 $24,900- $31,900 $21,900- $51,953 $23,999- $38,995

SO THERE YOU GO, WE BEAT THEM ON PRICE, CUSTOM OPTIONS AND WE ACTUALLY BUILD CUSTOM BIKES, NO COOKIE CUTTER "CUSTOMS" ALLOWED HERE.

I KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO COMPARE A CUSTOM BUILDER TO THOSE BIG COOKIE CUTTER FACTORIES CHURNING OUT COOKIE CUTTER BIKE AFTER COOKIE CUTTER BIKE BUT WE COULDN'T HELP OURSELVES. THEIR SO-CALLED CUSTOM BIKES AREN'T ANY MORE CUSTOM THAN WHAT THE FOLKS IN MILWAUKEE ARE CRANKING OUT EVERY DAY.

SOURCES: * BIG DOG MOTORCYCLES WEB SITE AND N.A.D.A. GUIDE

** TITAN MOTORCYCLES WEB SITE AND N.A.D.A. GUIDE(2007)

± AMERICAN IRONHORSE WEB SITE AND N.A.D.A. GUIDE(2007)

CALIFORNIA CUSTOMS VS. MORE COOKIE CUTTER "CUSTOMS"

IN THIS ROUND WE TAKE ON TWO MORE OF THE SO-CALLED "CUSTOM" MANUFACTURERS

ITEM CALIFORNIA CUSTOMS HELLBOUND STEEL* SWIFT MOTORCYCLES**
BUILT BIKE MODELS 26 6 7
UNASSEMBLED KIT MODELS 24 0 0
FRAME STYLES 3- RIGID, SOFTAIL OR RUBBER MOUNT 2- RIGID OR SOFTAIL 2- RIGID OR SOFTAIL
BASE MOTOR¹ S&S V96, V107, V113, V124, T124V OR SH93H  93" SHOVEL H-D 80"
BASE TRANSMISSION  6 SPEED 5 SPEED 6 SPEED
MANUFACTURER'S LICENSE? YES YES YES
BUILT TO YOUR SPECS? YES NOPE NOPE
BASE SUSPENSION(SOFTAILS) LEGEND AIR RIDE SHOCKS WE THINK SHOCKS WE THINK
WARRANTY? YES NOT SURE NOT SURE
WHEEL OPTIONS OVER 70 NONE WE KNOW OF NONE WE KNOW OF
REAR TIRE OPTIONS 200, 250 OR 300 WHO KNOWS? WHO KNOWS?
POLISHED DRIVETRAIN STANDARD? YES DON'T THINK SO MAYBE
SHEETMETAL OPTIONS UNLIMITED NONE NONE
BUILD TIME 10-12 WEEKS NONE, COOKIE CUTTER ALSO COOKIE CUTTER AND THEY HAVE A BUNCH IN STOCK WAITING TO SELL
BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1991 2003 2001
BASE PRICE RANGE $19,250- $36,000 $21,499- $38,999 $16,900- $32,900

WE KEEP FINDING NEW TARGETS FOR THIS COMPARISON CHART BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY AMAZED AT HOW THESE BIKE MAKERS SEEM TO CHARGE THROUGH THE NOSE FOR A PRODUCTION BIKE THEY CHURN OUT ONE AFTER THE NEXT. WAKE UP PEOPLE, THERE'S NOTHING "CUSTOM" ABOUT A BIKE THAT LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE THE OTHER ZILLION BIKES THEY STAMPED OUT. THEY'RE CHARGING HIGH BUCKS FOR MEDIOCRE QUALITY AND NOTHING CUSTOM BUILT TO YOUR SPECS.

*SOURCE: N.A.D.A. GUIDE(2007). I USUALLY SAY THEIR WEB SITE BUT THE HBS WEB SITE HAS NO INFORMATION ON IT AT ALL ABOUT THEIR PRODUCTS.

** SOURCE: N.A.D.A. GUIDE(2007) AND SOME INFO FROM THE SWIFT WEB SITE BUT AGAIN, THEIR IDEA OF INFORMATION IS PRETTY SLOPPY. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THEIR CURRENT MODEL LINE UP LISTED.

¹WE DO NOT CHARGE MORE FOR ANY OF OUR MOTOR OPTIONS LISTED, ALL OF THE S&S MOTORS LISTED ARE PART OF OUR BASE PRICE ON CUSTOM BUILT MOTORCYCLES.

 

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